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Diversity & Feminism

This just in from Forbes Magazine — yet another article about why “women” don’t get promoted. (hat tip to my friend @ShaunRSmith)

Orit Gadiesh and Julie Coffman, in Why Women Don’t Make It Up The Ladder summarize several of the arguments that are advanced to explain why so few women, relative to men, get promoted up the management hierarchy. They conclude:

The mechanism for getting women into leadership positions is flawed.

ladder bahhumbugThe mechanism is flawed. So are the explanations that people give for why the percentage of women in managerial jobs goes from 50% to 3% from entry level manager to CEO.

Explanations or Excuses?

People have great difficulty separating explanations from excuses. Explanations tell us what is happening. Excuses tell us what people want us to believe is happening.

Here’s one “explanation”

“The reality is that in any group of equally competent and talented men and women of the same tenure, women who have taken time off or worked part-time for family reasons lack equal experience, by definition. That matters a lot when they are considered for promotion. Result: Men usually get the job.”

This is ‘explanation’ for women’s absence in top management is, quite frankly, crap.

It’s crap for two reasons–

1. This explanation suggests that employers are basically unable to determine who is better for a promotion based on job-specific criteria. Supposedly, they can’t tell the difference between “equally competent and talented men and women.”

Really? Are they just not paying attention? Or just not looking?

Perhaps organizations are unable to tell the difference simply because they are too lazy, too unskilled, or simply unwilling to make the effort to distinguish carefully between candidates.

If you think I’m crazy to suggest that employers are too lazy to make the effort to distinguish between candidates, consider this:

Study after study shows that interviews are basically useless when it comes to determining whether a person is well-qualified for a particular job. However, employers keep relying on interviews for their primary data about candidates’ ability. Why? Because it takes too much effort to identify exactly what skills are really needed for a job, and too much effort to figure out how to evaluate a person’s grasp of these skills.

This is especially true for middle and upper management jobs, which tend to be idiosyncratic enough that clear “HR” criteria are rarely already available to guide evaluations.

2. This explanation suggests that “dwell time” in a job, or a career, is an appropriate tie breaker between two otherwise “equally competent and talented candidates“. Supposedly, the amount of time you’ve spent in a job or at a company is a direct measure of ‘experience’.

Really? Does more ‘time in rank’ really mean more learning?

Perhaps organizations are just unwilling to examine if time really matters, and if it does, just what amount of time matters.

How does time matter, really?   Does ‘time in full-time job” really equal ‘experience’, and does ‘experience’ really equal ‘learning’?

No.

Especially, all other criteria being equal, a difference in the amount of full time work experience would show us the opposite of how that time difference is currently being used. If two people are equally qualified, and one took 10 years to qualify while the other took 7 years, who then is the ‘better’ candidate?

Does “time” really matter?

If time were an important criterion for promoting one of two otherwise equal candidates, why don’t we use age to decide who should get promoted?

An older candidate would have more experience, right? But would we ever promote one candidate over another similarly qualified candidate because he or she has more time on this earth and thus more ‘experience’?

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I don’t think so.

So then, let’s ask: How many years’ difference really makes a difference?

Just how much of a difference in years of experience really makes a difference when it comes to someone’s ability to do the next level of a job?

Is a 2 year difference between two 35 yrs olds enough? Or a 4 year difference between two 40 year olds? Or a 6 year difference between two 50 year olds?

Because, when you think about it, the amount of time the average managerial mom is out of the workforce is not huge.

Just how many years does your average managerial mom ‘take off’ entirely if she has kids? Maybe an average of 6 years? How about those moms who go part-time for a while? What’s the average mommy-track stint? (Maybe, let’s be generous here, it’s all of 8 years? That translates into 4 years less ‘experience’.)

Is that enough to disqualify this mom from being promoted? Or from being considered for higher level work?

We should also ask, how long should this time difference matter? How many times does this time difference get used as decision criteria? Isn’t it possible that, at some point, a candidate demonstrates that regardless of the number of years she’s been a VP, that she has now demonstrated the ability to be promoted to EVP?

I’m thinking that this whole ‘explanation’ of time and ‘experience’ as the tie-breaker is not an ‘explanation’ but rather an excuse.

– Maybe, instead, organizations are unwilling to do the work it takes to distinguish among candidates.

– Maybe organizations are unwilling to put the effort into exploring just what difference 2, 4 or 6 years actually makes in a person’s ability to be promoted, and for how long that difference should matter.

– Maybe organizations should make more of an effort to understand what really matters to doing the next job well.

Perhaps we should stop talking about why ‘women’ don’t move up the ladder, and start focusing on why organizations won’t promote women.

What do you think?

For another view, see:
Pushing Ourselves to the Top of the Corporate Ladder at TheMamaBee.
Photo credits:
Old Ladder by Bahhumbug on Flicker
SwimmingPoolClock by TimmSuess on Flickr

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The (Feminist) Business Bloggers’ Lament

by cv harquail on January 26, 2010

In the past several weeks I’ve been working with two different groups of businesswomen, developing social-media based movements to advance social change in and around the workplace.

Conversations with these women have been intellectually challenging, inspiring and empowering. And they have also been oddly confessional, about a problem that — in my opinion — it’s time to bring out into the open.

A Personal Authenticity Problem

These women can’t be authentic, and can’t be their most powerful, because they are hiding something. These powerful, dynamic, visionary women are hiding their concerns about equality between women and men. These businesswomen are hiding their own feminist identities.

Here’s how the confession the conversation breaks down:

First, we get the fears:

  • I don’t want to bring up women’s concerns when talking to potential clients about this business issue.   If I raise it as a women’s issue, or — worse– a mom’s issue, it’s treated as a special interest instead of a business concern.
  • I don’t want people to think I’m “only” talking about women’s issues, that I’m a one-trick expert.
  • I don’t want clients to think that I’m bringing up women’s situation because as a woman I’m self-interested and/or because I have an axe to grind.

Then, we get the reflections on experience:

  • Any time I bring this up as a woman’s issue, it gets marginalized and put in a corner because women are a “special case”.
  • Any time I bring this up as a women’s concern, people disregard it and tell me that this isn’t a business issue.

Then, we get the Authenticity Problem:

  • I don’t want my silence to be perceived as me not being feminist.
  • don’t want my silence about women’s concerns to be perceived as me not being smart enough to see the gendered dynamics, differences and issues that will prevent this business program from being successful.
  • I don’t want my silence to be perceived as collusion.

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But silent we are.

After a few (female and male) colleagues have said to me “I didn’t know you were a feminist,” I realized that I’d maybe dialed back my own authenticity a little too much.

And, I’ve wondered: What am I doing that is chronically inauthentic, if this is how some people see me? (Alternative analysis: they don’t know what a feminist looks like.)

Okay, I’ll admit it: I’ve hedged, myself, on this very blog. Many times. Over and over. Afraid people will dismiss AuthenticOrganizations if/when I drop the f-bomb.

Why is this Inauthenticity a problem?

By not speaking as feminist business people, about women’s issues, gender dynamics, and other intersectional concerns about diversity and inclusion that are important to the business initiatives they lead, none of these women gets to participate in an authentic way.

And, the very initiatives they are advocating are feminist issues — issues where a feminist analysis and the feminist agenda would make a big difference in what goals are set and what kind of social change is achieved. Said one of these businesswomen:

Sexism itself prevents us from covering these topics, even though we know we can’t put this initiative onto already “sexist “organizational cultures, and hope that we will still achieve the change we seek.

Not thinking as feminists, not reminding ourselves to use a feminist lens, actually impedes our effectiveness as business people, as strategists, as consultants, and as leaders.

So, what should we do?

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When Will “Social Business” Become Social Change Business?

January 7, 2010

Just a quick rant here, triggered by and not quite in response to Rachel Happe’s post on The Social Organization & Womenomics. In her post, Rachel wonders whether a truly ’social’ organization or business might be more accommodating to the real-world, real-life pressures of managing work and family demands, not only for women but also [...]

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Bias Bingo: Blending Branding and Learning

November 4, 2009

I love it when basic business science can be applied to important causes. So, I was excited when my favorite FemaleScienceProfessor pointed me towards a clever website designed to teach about gender bias: The Gender Bias Learning Project.
The Gender Bias Learning Project is a great demonstration of how basic web skills, clever marketing skills, and [...]

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Evidence of a Mommy Track Bump: Returnees are seen as more motivated

October 21, 2009

This just in from the The Journal of ‘I’m Not Sure I Can Believe It’ … Well actually, from the The Journal of Leadership & Organizational Studies:
Research published in the August 2009 issue suggests that coming back to full-time work after a few years on the Mommy Track can make you look “unusually” motivated and [...]

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Is the Mommy Track Bump Real?

October 21, 2009

Is the Mommy Track Bump real?
Perhaps the biggest reservation to have about the study that (I suggest) proposes a Mommy Track Bump has to do with the research method my colleagues used.
Because this research finding is from a lab experiment conducted among adult MBA students, it does not show that these differences exists in real, [...]

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Resources for Authenticity: Being vs. Understanding

June 30, 2009

What resources can organizations draw on to create and sustain an authentic sense of “who they are”?
My class with the Darden EMBA students on Saturday danced around the questions of “How do organizations ’source’ their identity? and “How do organizations sustain their authenticity?” Even though we had a chance to discuss many other issues in [...]

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Defend Your Personal Brand. Barbara Boxer shows how.

June 19, 2009

What can we learn from Senator Barbara Boxer and her interaction with Brigadier General Michael Walsh?
1. Defend your personal brand.
2. Ask to be treated in a way that reflects who you are, what you have accomplished, and what you stand for.
3. To do anything else is to allow your personal brand to degrade.
Boxer and [...]

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Reason #238 that we should have another woman on the Supreme Court

May 19, 2009

From Feministing. com
Really, Ann Friedman nails it. No sense in trying to recap this… just head to the full article. (captioned photo from Feministing)
Supreme Court: Pregnancy discrimination A-OK!
“Today our nation’s highest court ruled in AT&T v. Hulteen that women who took maternity leave and were discriminated against by AT&T are shit out of luck.
Before the [...]

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Authentic Playlist at Misogyny Free Prom

May 15, 2009

A shout out to my girlfriends at Bust magazine, home of the GirlWideWeb and all things hip & 3rd wave feminist . They share the news today of an advocacy movement by The Women’s Health and Issues Club of the high school in Arcadia CA, which has resulted in a prom music playlist that [...]

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