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	<title>Comments on: Fake Names for Authentic Organizations? Thornberg &amp; Forester</title>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is so much that goes into a naming schematic for a business. Personally, I struggled with this concept as I have a very, very common name and just about all forms of my personal first, middle, and last name are equally common---already taken. So, using a professional sounding, short, and easy to remember name --even if fictitious--carries different factors for its use. NOT deception. Clients should recognize that they&#039;re paying F&amp;T for their quality work...not the name. If I pay a firm for a service that increased my business and saved me time...I would not care about how or where the name came from. 
Question: In today&#039;s business arena (with so many REAL names that are silly and unprofessional soundin...What&#039;s wrong with using a name that is catchy, easy to recall, and commands attention?

Let your work speak for itself. A fake name  (to me) doesn&#039;t translate into dishonesty or deceptive...given the naming challenges I spoke about above.


I like it. My firms name is derived from a greek translation based on the core business, but it&#039;s not easily remembered, and I have struggled with how to not e over looked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is so much that goes into a naming schematic for a business. Personally, I struggled with this concept as I have a very, very common name and just about all forms of my personal first, middle, and last name are equally common&#8212;already taken. So, using a professional sounding, short, and easy to remember name &#8211;even if fictitious&#8211;carries different factors for its use. NOT deception. Clients should recognize that they&#8217;re paying F&amp;T for their quality work&#8230;not the name. If I pay a firm for a service that increased my business and saved me time&#8230;I would not care about how or where the name came from.<br />
Question: In today&#8217;s business arena (with so many REAL names that are silly and unprofessional soundin&#8230;What&#8217;s wrong with using a name that is catchy, easy to recall, and commands attention?</p>
<p>Let your work speak for itself. A fake name  (to me) doesn&#8217;t translate into dishonesty or deceptive&#8230;given the naming challenges I spoke about above.</p>
<p>I like it. My firms name is derived from a greek translation based on the core business, but it&#8217;s not easily remembered, and I have struggled with how to not e over looked.</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://AuthenticOrganizations.com/harquail/2008/07/03/fake-names-for-authentic-organizations-thornberg-forester/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not worried about the joke going stale.  I don&#039;t think they are either.  I have a feeling you are reading into this quite a bit more than they ever intended.  I doubt it was about tricking the public or being witty comedians.  They probably just thought it was a good, ironic name and went with it.  I agree and think it was a nice choice.

I can&#039;t imagine what you are worried about in the realm of &quot;tricking the public&quot;.  Who is it that you are afraid is going to be had?  I find it unlikely that someone would hire T&amp;F, pay them good money for an ad campaign, and then upon its completion realize, &quot;Oh crap!  This is a cutting-edge motion graphics agency?!?!?!  I thought they were doing my taxes!&quot;  

I simply don&#039;t understand what the problem is here.  Nothing about T&amp;F seems controversial to me.  They are a solid company doing solid work.  Enough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not worried about the joke going stale.  I don&#8217;t think they are either.  I have a feeling you are reading into this quite a bit more than they ever intended.  I doubt it was about tricking the public or being witty comedians.  They probably just thought it was a good, ironic name and went with it.  I agree and think it was a nice choice.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine what you are worried about in the realm of &#8220;tricking the public&#8221;.  Who is it that you are afraid is going to be had?  I find it unlikely that someone would hire T&amp;F, pay them good money for an ad campaign, and then upon its completion realize, &#8220;Oh crap!  This is a cutting-edge motion graphics agency?!?!?!  I thought they were doing my taxes!&#8221;  </p>
<p>I simply don&#8217;t understand what the problem is here.  Nothing about T&amp;F seems controversial to me.  They are a solid company doing solid work.  Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: CV Harquail</title>
		<link>http://AuthenticOrganizations.com/harquail/2008/07/03/fake-names-for-authentic-organizations-thornberg-forester/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>CV Harquail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Julie-

Thanks for your comments-- I hadn&#039;t really thought much about the euphony of the name(s)...but considering that now, the name &quot;Keihner, Matz, &amp; Meredith&quot; sounds pretty good to me. It fits the old-fashioned ad agency convention -- like &quot;Doyle, Dane &amp; Bernbach&quot; and is easy to smush into just KMM. But that&#039;s a personal preference, and more about the idea of what they &#039;could have&#039; named the agency, rather than about the effects of what they &#039;did&#039; name the agency.

But about the name they did choose-- you&#039;re right, the &#039;beauty&#039; both in the sense of the inventiveness and in the sense of the ha-ha joke, would be lost if they named it after real persons who were not the agencies founders, like Lewis &amp; Clark, for example.

But, as a person who appreciates the cleverness of the joke, what do you think about the concern that the joke will grow stale, or the idea that by being intentionally misleading, the name tricks people (assuming that tricking them is not a good thing)? Do you have any thoughts about that as a person who appreciates the creative move of the fake name?

i&#039;d love to hear you take on it. Thanks again! cvh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Julie-</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments&#8211; I hadn&#8217;t really thought much about the euphony of the name(s)&#8230;but considering that now, the name &#8220;Keihner, Matz, &#038; Meredith&#8221; sounds pretty good to me. It fits the old-fashioned ad agency convention &#8212; like &#8220;Doyle, Dane &#038; Bernbach&#8221; and is easy to smush into just KMM. But that&#8217;s a personal preference, and more about the idea of what they &#8216;could have&#8217; named the agency, rather than about the effects of what they &#8216;did&#8217; name the agency.</p>
<p>But about the name they did choose&#8211; you&#8217;re right, the &#8216;beauty&#8217; both in the sense of the inventiveness and in the sense of the ha-ha joke, would be lost if they named it after real persons who were not the agencies founders, like Lewis &#038; Clark, for example.</p>
<p>But, as a person who appreciates the cleverness of the joke, what do you think about the concern that the joke will grow stale, or the idea that by being intentionally misleading, the name tricks people (assuming that tricking them is not a good thing)? Do you have any thoughts about that as a person who appreciates the creative move of the fake name?</p>
<p>i&#8217;d love to hear you take on it. Thanks again! cvh</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Therien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Therien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kohlberg, Matz, and Meredith are creative geniuses, mostly in the work that they do, but also in the naming of their company. 

 Whoever said 
&quot;Why didnâ€™t the three founders use their own names? Whatâ€™s so wrong about being Keihner, Matz, &amp; Meredith?&quot;
MUST be kidding.

Have you really overlooked the fact that its beauty would be lost if it stood for something?  Can anyone deny the fact that &quot;Thornberg and Forester&quot;, while conveying utterly ironic corporate-ness, also rolls of the tongue? 

Such comments made me hesitant about dignifying the post with a response.

However, I cannot help sending a word on the subject to the masterminds of Thornberg &amp; Forester:

Brilliant my dears, simply brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kohlberg, Matz, and Meredith are creative geniuses, mostly in the work that they do, but also in the naming of their company. </p>
<p> Whoever said<br />
&#8220;Why didnâ€™t the three founders use their own names? Whatâ€™s so wrong about being Keihner, Matz, &amp; Meredith?&#8221;<br />
MUST be kidding.</p>
<p>Have you really overlooked the fact that its beauty would be lost if it stood for something?  Can anyone deny the fact that &#8220;Thornberg and Forester&#8221;, while conveying utterly ironic corporate-ness, also rolls of the tongue? </p>
<p>Such comments made me hesitant about dignifying the post with a response.</p>
<p>However, I cannot help sending a word on the subject to the masterminds of Thornberg &amp; Forester:</p>
<p>Brilliant my dears, simply brilliant.</p>
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